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Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:02 pm


I tend to have a lot of irritation from my scleral shell (been wearing one for 6 years), and as a matter of fact, my ocularist has said that I have one of the most sensitive eyes he's ever worked on. I was kind of wondering about getting a Gunderson Flap or dermal graft to see if that helped. I had appointments with both my opthomologist and my retina specialist last week, and both of them told me that a Gunderson Flap would not hep me because my eye has kind of made its own Gunderson Flap. I'm not sure I totally understood (eye exams make me so exhausted that I think I have more trouble tracking information during one). But I THINK what they were saying is that my eye has built up enough material over my cornea (scar tissue, maybe?) that my cornea is already protected. So, I'm a bit disappointed that there isn't an "easy" answer for me, but also a bit grateful that my eye has done this. If I'm this uncomfortable with my eye making its own Gunderson flap, as it were, how miserable would I be if it hadn't? I just can't imagine. But anyway, my search for comfort goes on! (The last few days have been pretty good though. Maybe my eye is truly adjusting to my new scleral shell, which I got about a month ago.)



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Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:47 pm


Sorry a Gunderson flap will not help you. I don't know anything about them other than what I've briefly read over the years. Despite all the problems with scleral shells and comfort, I've never seen anyone post who has had a flap done. I wonder why.

I bought a small recorder to tape lectures at school (I need all the help I can get at 49). It fits in my palm. I suggest you get one and record doctors visits. Your doctor won't mind and it would be one less thing to stress you out. Wish I was more helpful with your discomfort but I hope the suggestion helps.

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Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:41 am

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LOL, the Joke's on ME :lol: When I read the topic's title, I ACTUALLY thought that was someone's name. In WV we do have our share of interesting names, but I have to admit that Flap isn't one of them. btw, Amy's suggestion re: the recorder is Spot On. Visits to the doc are stressful and it's hard to listen and jot down notes simultaneously. I sure hope your search is successful, woodstock

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Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:58 am


Paging Mr. Flap, Mr. Gunderson Flap! lol :lol:



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Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:06 pm

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johnadverd wrote:
The practice is subverting our society's orderly sense of sequence.

Dirigiste is also used with things other than economics. Vogue-Word Watcher Darren Gersh of Chevy Chase.

With the understanding that you will not run your review before Tuesday. I know how to enjoy. This led to a meaning of passageway enabling passengers.

The WWII American overseas intelligence service in the Western Hemisphere. and I've probably never seen it in print before. and their.



Golly Ned, johna, just consider me a dumb hillbilly, but to paraphrase a quote in an earlier post in another thread;
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What choo talkin' 'bout ? :D

I have this sense of "non- sequiturism" in the post? :?

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Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:12 pm

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Oh good, it isn't just me. If anyone would get that you would Willis...I couldn't remember from beginning to end what was said, but maybe with time we will get IT.
I thought Gunderson flap was a family having an upsetting reunion or Christmas or Thanksgiving get together....
On the serious side, I feel for you having the pain and hope it subsides soon. I had pain with my cornea just having ulcers and calcium deposits/then breaking off and...on and on it went for years. I had my eye removed, no choice really to have a shell, it was never mentioned. I think my eye was such a mess it was best gone. Take care, Trudy



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Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:08 pm

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johnadverd wrote:
The practice is subverting our society's orderly sense of sequence. Dirigiste is also used with things other than economics. Vogue-Word Watcher Darren Gersh of Chevy Chase. With the understanding that you will not run your review before Tuesday. I know how to enjoy. This led to a meaning of passageway enabling passengers. The WWII American overseas intelligence service in the Western Hemisphere. and I've probably never seen it in print before. and their.

Hey, are you the same johnadverd that was banned from ARMY.com?

http://www.army.com/forum/member.php?u=11498

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Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:16 pm


As a newbie, I'm always finding out how much I don't know. What is a "Gunderson Flap"? No item in Wikipedia, and so far I cannot decipher from this thread any clue???

Bob



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Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:50 am

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T's dad, I found a link for you. But it's blatant googology and I'm completely clueless- well not completely as it some articles do refer to an alternative to the Gunderson conjunctival flap called a mucous membrane graft But who knows? The linked article is prolly TMI if you aren't going to be the recipient of the flap. But it does have pretty pictures.

Woodstock, I'll be hoping right along with you that your bod is making the proper adjustments on its own. The pain and discomfort some of you guys express make me feel like a REALLY lucky cuss or maybe a REALLY lucky wuss. Here's to some luck for you:
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Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:25 pm


Hey Willis, thanks. That's more information than I thought I'd ever need, but at least, now I am a little educated. Don't need one myself, though.

Bob



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Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:08 pm

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Hi everyone,
First post and this thread, although a little old relates to me. I am about to have the Gunderson Flap procedure, I just thought I would chime in, if anyone wants any info as to why, I can give details.



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Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:14 pm


Hi, maybe you could send a private message to Woodstock13 in case they miss your post. Just an idea - Amy



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Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:41 pm

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Saito56 wrote:
Hi everyone,
First post and this thread, although a little old relates to me. I am about to have the Gunderson Flap procedure, I just thought I would chime in, if anyone wants any info as to why, I can give details.


I'd be interested to hear your story. I have been struggling to acheive scleral shell comfort for about a year now with no luck. I have mentioned the Gunderson flap to both my doctor and new ocularist and both of them advised against it since it can lead to complications if I ever need or choose to have an evisceration or enucleation.

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Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:28 am

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Saito56 wrote:
Hi everyone,
First post and this thread, although a little old relates to me. I am about to have the Gunderson Flap procedure, I just thought I would chime in, if anyone wants any info as to why, I can give details.

Saito, you might try either starting a new thread in general discussions or better yet, start a new one in introductions. When a reply is tacked on to an existing thread, it oft gets overlooked by many users.

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